I2 A and B are going to read this novel by David Lodge during this academic year. Please post your comments in this section.
10 de octubre de 2012
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1 – 200 de 608 Más reciente› El más reciente»Hi everybody, I hope you are not finding it too difficult. This is to say that we have to read up to the top of page 8. I have a different edition and I have found out that I wanted you to read to only up to page 8 which happens to be 12 in my edition. Ok?
No comments yet?
I´ve just read the Becquer´s poem and in my opinion it is a very honest and passionate way to speak abut an old feeling of true love.
When my mother was a child that poem was really popular at school.
Cheers
Jacques
The black swallows will return...
Hi everyone!
From my point of view,the poet, through this poem, tends to express the pain that love causes him when it dies and ends. He feels that he has it lost and it cannot be recovered.
This poem brings me back many memories of my youth(we analyzed it deeply at school).
This poem is my fave of Becquer. My love story with this poem started when is was 15 years old.
Now, i have a book with the poems of this spanish writer.
If you know the love, you can understand what Gustavo wanted to express in his poems.
You should read about his life if you want to undestarnd better his work. His "legends" are amazing too.
See you
Sorry, i forget to write my name, I am Lara.
bye
Hi everybody
I didn´t read this poem at school but I have to say that I have liked it. I´m not a really fan of poems because I prefer the science but I have to say that It´s okay (It´s not the best poem but It´s nice).
Good night to everyone
Jacques I have read Becquer's poem
I am very glad you liked it. It is fantastic in my opinion and the bit about the swallow is a very nice image, with the idea of what returns and what doesn't.
Elvira, I agree with you... a love that goes, but at the same time stays. It will always be with the author. Love always or very often remains, don't you think?
Lara, thank you for reminding us abut the legends, they are very good. I also love Becquer and the English Romantic poets are out of this world
May, I didn`t read this poem.. I am not a poem fan...I prefer science
You have understood the poem very well which means you are very capable of feeling... which sometimes is difficult for scientists, ha, ha, so you should go on reading...
I am very pleased with your comments they are very good! Keep at it!
Now what about the novel?
The poem is pretty but too much romantic for me, anyway it makes me think about the meaning of each sentence, like the novel do, so I don´t know who author I will choose for my essay.
Good morning to everyone!
First of all, i would like to say that i find very nice and useful this blog, it is a grate idea.
I find very interesting these first pages of the novel but a little hard for me. I have to look it up an average of 20 words per page...
What I like the most is the style of writing of David Lodge.
Hi everybody!
Jacques, as your mother did i had to read literature and poetry very much and I feel happy for that now. G.A.Bequer is not my favourite author. I prefer Luis Cernuda, a little bit anarchic with no rhyme at all and quite more dark but romantic in any case. I can recommend you to have a look.
See you,
Renata
Hi everybody!!!!
I read Becquer's poem when I was in school and I remember that I liked it, altough I don't like poetry very much, I prefer to read novels.
I have started to read the novel, and I admit that I find it difficult. I have to look for several words because I don't know their meanings, but I supose that I will find it easier when I read more...
Happy weekend!!
GEMA
Renata, thank you so much for your recommendation.
Although I have never read Cernuda´s poems, however I have felt attraction for his personality since I went to an exhibition about his life and his relationship with that brilliant generation of young Spanish intellectuals.
Do you remember? It was many years ago at Residencia de Estudiantes.
Cheers
I am enjoying the novel, although it is quite difficult because I don't know the meaning of many words. I read everything trying to understand the general meaning. Then I read it again looking up each word in the dictionary.
What I like about the novel is how easy it is to imagine each situation. The way to describe the situations is very complete and full of details.
The last course we also read a novel very difficult to our level. In the beginning it was frustrating, but little by little it was easier.
Happy bank holiday to you all!
Hello everybody,
first I would like to talk about the poem. In the last lesson I didn't know what the meaning of the word "swallow" was, but of course I knew the poem!!! I love poems and I think that Becquer is one of my favourites writers. But I have a doubt... why these birds are the symbol of love???
I also want to say about the novel that I felt really bad at first, because I didn't know the meaning of a lot of words, and it was a little bit frustrating... I hope don't need to look for so many words in each page...
Good weekend to everyone!!!
Ohh... it's Gema... sorry!!!
Pablo, like the novel doeS,
Yes it is Romantic, much more so than the novel but you have to write the essay on the novel.
One has to think also on the other meaning of the word swallow and how that affects Philip too, as Philip is shy and fearful
Lázara, I find the blog very nice and useful, the adv at the end. And thank you for saying so.
Well, don't worry about the number of words, I know it is hard but when you widen your vocabulary it will get better, I told you that the beginning was the worse part.
You will read quicklier as you get used to the author's style.
And the more you write the better
Renata, we will follow your advise, reading poetry is good for the mind and the soul, it is the highest form of writing, but reading novels and plays is fantastic too.
How do you like the novel?
Gema, when I was at school..,
You are right, it will get easier as we advance and you will be very glad that you have read it.
Elvira, the way in which he describes the situations.., or the way in which the situations are described... a very difficult novel...
I am very glad you like the novel and you have said something very interesting with which I agree completely, one can imagine the situations easily.
Anónimo, one of my favourite authors.. the adj in the singular.. why are these birds the symbol of love?...
I don't know that those birds be the symbol of love. What I think is that they are romantic birds and that is probably because they come and go, because they come from a hot exotic country and because they always return to the same place, to their nest. Well all that is very Romantic, don't you think?
Hello everybody
I had to learn this poem when I was child at the school. I like it in spanish, sounds like a sad song.
But I understand to May when she says that she isn´t fan of poems... I chose science way too... and it is hard to know how you feel reading Becquer poems.
Begoña, at school..,it sounds like.., I understand May.., I chose science..,
Well you have to think how you feel, it is not so difficult for me. How do you feel when you are in love, for example? Or how do you feel when somebody is nasty to you? Well it is the same. When you read the poem, do you feel happy? sad? nostalgic? melancholic? etc.
Hellow everybody! I am Jose (girl) I hope you enjoy a lot in this long week end and you spend your time of fantastic way...
First of all, I want to give my honestly opinion about the book that we have to read. I recognize I feel a few lost because until now I am not able to pull out the meaning instead of looking for the vocabulary in the dictionary.
By the other hand, I agree with several class mates about the Becquer´s poem, I prefer reading novels in general.
See you tomorrow
kissess
I am Jose girl and I realized that i am in trouble with the blog because i have written two commentaries more average of the first and i think nobody received them.
it is a proof
see you
Ok it seems that in these ocasion i have been able to send the comentary. Before I wanted to make a question to Marta. Is it correct the expression you are in love or on the contrary it is to use with the verb to fall, i mean: you are falling in love????
thanks a lot
see you
And Congratulations Elvira because for me the english book up to now is boring and so difficult, as well as having a weighty lecture , allthough i recognize that the author describes with all tipe of details the characters. In my vew you are going to give me a hand with the book!!!! Don´t worry it is a joke!!!!!
Sorry I am Jose girl....
see you
Hello everybody I just read the poem of Becquer, it is a very good poem, a little melanncolic but very nice. I remembered when I was child was the first poem that i readed so for me is very pleasent to re-read.
Jose, I want to give my honest opinion.
I think you do very well.
I admit I feel a bit lost.., on the other hand..,
I know at the beginning it is a bit difficult and it demands a lot but you will see how you get to understand it. But you have to look up the words.
Try and write simply as I fear you complicate the structure a little and it is better to write simply at the beginning, ok?
Jose, I want to ask Marta a question..,is the expression you are in love correct?
Yes, it is. It is also correct to say you are falling in love. This comes first, you fall in love and then you are in love.
Don't worry if you study you will manage to understand the novel. Nothing is easy at the beginning...persevere
Miguel, I remember that as a child, it was the first poem I read so it was very nice for me to reread it.
I am very glad you liked it. I think it is a very good poem to read at any time because it talks about what was and how it stays in our mind... because some things don't return.. a bit melancholic as you say, but true
Hi Jose girl!
No Problem! I'll help you with the book delighted. I think it's a matter of patience and perseverance. Do not worry, if you do it slowly, you will look up less and less vocabulary.
Good night!
See you all tomorrow...
Elvira, thank you for helping her and please help everybody!!!!
You are absolutely right, they will find it less and less difficult.
Thank you marta! I used to read novels in the past but I have no enought time to read ...nothing:-( poetry and some articles, just in case...;-)
anyone remember what page number must be read in the new edition (vintage) of the book?
Hello Renata,
sorry for the delay in the answer, but I have just read your comment... We have to read till page number 13 (the first paragraph)for today.
See you everybody in a few minutes!!!
Gema
Hello everyboy, I try to find how we can download the audio book of changing places. For me the book is a little bit difficoult to understand but the general context is so funny that in my opinion will be a great lecture.
Hello everybody!
miguel when you achieve download the audiobook of this book, please, pass me. I achieved to download the book, if someone is interesting in it.
Good night and see you tomorrow.
Renata,...anything...,anyone remembers...,
Please everybody tell Renata the page, I don't even remember mine, though I think in my book it was page 25 but I am not sure, sorry
Miguel, I will try to find.., IT will be a great reading..,
I am very glad to have read your message, it is very encouraging! You will enjoy it I am sure and you are right, it is very funny! The author has a lot of sense of humour
Andrés, when you manage to download.., pass it to me..., I managed to download the book if anyone is interested in it.
Thank you for your offer and I say the same if you manage to download the audiobook, please pass it.
Hi to everybody!
Marta, thank you for the advice!
I'm impatient to know what will happen between both professors (Zepp and Swallow )... or how the author will continues with his own critical about the American education system.
Somebody would likes to give his own opinion or prediction?
RENATA... We have to read for tomorrow until page 12 of the new book ( vintage).
oh! sorry, I saw now the comment of Gema. I answer too late your question, Renata, I hope you could read everything. I can see that we are not in the same class.
Good nigh! :)
Lázara, you are welcome.
How the author will continue. After a modal verb we put the inf without to, ok?
his own criticism...
somebody would LIKE...careful with that mistake, tell me in class to explain that, it is very important.
Well I think that he will continue to be critical
Lázara, Gema's comment
Thank you for your help and comments
This time David Lodge describes the changes that take place in marriage over the years. The way he describes the houses in which they live is fun. They all look the same. In my opinion, the author defines the Phillip's character as innocent and conformist.
On the other hand, has anyone managed to find the audiobook on the Internet? I continue looking for it! I only find it for sale and is very expensive...
Marta, thank you very much for the corrections.
See you later.
Hi Elvira, In my opinion, I don't think that the author defines the Philip's character as conformist.
I think that he is not content to write simple articles or books that speak about another writer, like Zepp. Phillip is waiting to create a great work, it can be dangerous because can pass time, long time and never be happy with the results, so never do it... but it is a risk.
I worked with all my magic in order to find the audio book, but there were no found on internet, perhaps somebody is luckier than me. See you tomorrow.
Hi Lázara!
From my point of view, the author describes this professor as a person with lack of motivation, stagnant in his life and work. I think that so far, Swallow has no desire to do anything to change their situation. To me this is to be a conformist person.
Elvira, defines Philip's character, if not you say el Philip.
You have a point about Philip, he accepts things probably with the English phlem.
Yes, the audiobook is there to buy, I will try to get hold of it too.
Pablo, but it was not to be found in the internet..,
I will try to convince the secretary to buy it...
Lázara, Philip's personality..., because time can pass. Keep to S+V+O+A ok?
I don't quite agree with you, I agree more with Elvira. I think Philip is content and he accepts life as it is.
I'm agree with your opinion, Elvira.
I try to think in authors that wrote their fist novel with fifty, sixty years old but most of them begins with thirty, it is clear... I just wanted to give a chance to Swallow. Maybe he surprises us!
Thak you Marta. I toke note of this.
THANK (no thak, sorry...)
Lázara, you are welcome
Hi everybody, how are things?
I,ve just read a litlle the english reading, i don,t like yet but i,m perseverant and i expect to get used soon to reading this author... In general i agree with several class mates about the swallow,s character perhaps he is conformist eventhouht at first of his career and when he got married with her wife he had more plans in his life....
Lazara don,t forget to use the verb to agree without to be, it means i agree.....no i am agree....
see you this afternoon
by
josegirl
Hi everybody,
I am enjoying very much reading this funny novel. But it is very difficult for me to read it. I not used to read original novel, I read sometimes adapted novel for learning English.
Hi everybodyyy
This weekend I will try to get the audiobook. If I get it, I will tell you at Monday, ok??? see youuuu
Jose, how's life?.., don't like it yet.., about Swallow's personality..,even though at the beginning of his career he..., married to his wife..., not I am agree..,
Thank you for telling Lázara that, this is what you should all do as this is a blog to help with writing mainly.
Yes I agree too, Swallow is a conformist and that is an overt criticism on the English professors' attitude. Do you agree?
Vicente, I am not used to READING.., I have sometimes read..,
I am so glad you enjoy it! And I think you understand it very well which is really good, you catch the idea that means that your comprehension level is fantastic. And I promise you will find it easier soon.
Write in the blog often, please, as in this way you will improve and get rid of those mistakes.
May, we are going to buy it for the department so don't buy it as I will sort something out.
Please wait.
hi, how are doing?
Somebody needs the work english book? because the previous week i bought it ( in Pasajes book shop ) but muy twim sister yesterday she gave me hers book. If somebody is interested in this book please call me to cell phone: 629 71 70 07
thanks a lot
have a good week end!
Jose, how are you doing? my twin sister gave me hers/her book,
Are you a twin? I am a twin too, are you identical twins? We are.
Thank you Marta to encorage me, this make me happy and help me to follow learning English just for pleassure.
Hi everybody!!!!
I' m reading the novel, and I have to admit that I find it easier than at the begining...
Marta, I have two brothers who are twins, and I have always thought that they have a special relationship....
what do you think? Do you agree with me?? Are twins specially close???
GEMA F.
Once I met a couple of lovers, they named their son like Odin, I think that some parents would pass an exam to be parents, apart from that, I would like to ask if somebody can help me, because I didn´t catch at the end of the class if we have to do any exercise of the book. Thanks.
Hello Pablo.. For the next day we have to read the text "the name game winners" and do the exercises on the same page a and b... I think that this is all, but maybe someone understood other thing...
Sorry Pablo, I' m Gema...
You know many twins, i am a single daugther and when i was a little child, i always wanted a brother ( i prefer boys) but now i accept my condition of single daugther.
Respect to the class, i remenber that we should read the next pages of the novel.
see you.
Lara
Hello Gema F.
Answering to your question about twin brothers: in my opinion, twins have a special conexion since the moment they are conceived and of course they continue having it when they were born. This kind of brothers share a lot of experiences during their lifes. They can lean on each other in many situations of their life. They have always a friend by their side and nobody can understand them better than their own brother.
Sorry, I have noticed that your question was directed to Marta...
hellow everybody!!!
Yes, Marta, i am a twin sister and it is special case because we look like so much and we,ve specially relationship and we are so close. As well, we have another sister ( she is one year older than us ). Personally, i had wanted to have a brother like Vampi, but.....
Have a good week end! the mine, i,ll spend reading the book ( i hope to get the picture!!!!in the end....)
kisses
hi, have you tried to listen and see the Study link' cd? i've tried on pc and cannot open de file .exe. i only can open some mp3 files... i will try at home with mac but it seems so far easy and fun... ;-o
do you agree?
Renata,
I didn't proved the cd yet, but I think Listenings you have to hear in a CD-Player.
Kisses
not prove, but try
Hi Sira, don't worry, my question was for everybody!!!!
GEMA F.
Vicente, thank you M for encouraging me, this helpS.. and makeS
You are welcome and I mean it, don't forget the s of the 3rd person, ok?
Gema, that they HAD a special...
Oh how funny! There are a lot of twins it seems! It is true that they have a special relationship. It is difficult for others to understand. They are specially close, it is true.
Pablo, should pass an exam..,
I agree, what a name to give to a child.. he is probably suffering from that.
Vampi... as for the class, regarding the class
My father always says that the best thing is to be an only child as they inherit everything! And also they have all the love to themselves, they don't have to share that, so you are very lucky, it seems from those points of view
Sira, they continue having it after they ARE born. The verbs have to be in the same tense, ok?..,lives..,
You have explained it very well? How do you know?
Jose, A special case because we look very much alike.. we are very close..,
How interesting.. have you studied the same?
I think a brother is fantastic, how did your sister take it when you were born? Probably it is hard for her to accept the relationship between you and your twin.
And why is your twin not in the class?
Marta, i am Lara, i need ask something to you. On Monday i will take a train to Palencia at 18:05 beacuase i will go to the hospital on Tuesday to make some tests from my future surgery, can i go out of the class at 15:30? i life a little far from de school and i need go home before the train, im so sorry.
Renata,
Fantastic, let's see if you can do it, I will try to get them for the department, but it'll take some time
Sira, I didn't PROVE, but really you should say I didn't try..,
Sira, uuups, I see that you corrected yourself, well done
Marta,
I have known some twin girls and brothers and that is the feeling I perceive. When I was a child, I always wanted to have a twin sister (I have an elder brother) and if I had children I would like they were twins! But I can't choose that, hehe
I had two classmates who were twins sisters. They looked like a lot, but in character, they didn't take after at all. One of them was serious, shy and a bit introverted. The other was the opposite, cheerful, sociable and extroverted. They were identical when they were silent, however, as they open their mouths, you could identify them perfectly.
I wish you a good weekend!
Sira, I would like them to be twins..,
Well now it is not so difficult to have twins, there are thousands because of the fertility cases. Twins are fantastic, but there are also drawbacks as there is always a dominant one and one who is dominated. My mother and the rest of my family have always found it a little hard to put up with us.
I wonder if it is the same in Jóse's case. What do you think?
Elvira, they did not take after each other.., the moment they openED their mouths...
I think it is similar with all twins as I said there is always one who dominates and talks and one who listens. They are happy with that situation, but it happened the same to us, people could tell us apart the moment we started talking and not otherwise.
when I was a child, my brother and me wanted to be a twins because we wore the same clothes, we had the same height and we was all time together. We even told to people that we were twins.
Really? How funny, Lázara!
Hi everybody,
I had read your posts, but it is the first time I write.
Thanks for everyone to make me feel welcomed..., i felt really embarrased first days because I was 10 years without speaking or studing english; and results me a bit difficult to come back to think in english.
I´m happy with the book, but I look it difficult, thank goodness I´m not the only one who have to look for the meaning of 20 each page...lol.
And speaking about twins...oh...I always wished to have a twin...i hope it seems to be a difficult relationship, but deeply to another one.
A huge hug to everyone!!! ;))
Lázara, wanted to be twins.., we were the same height and we were always together.., we even told people that we were...
I think many people want to be twins, or so they have often told me. One wonders if it is an inner wish that we all have of not wanting to be alone..
Annie, I have read.., thanks everybody for making me feel welcome.., really embarrassed on the first days.., and I find it a little difficult to think and speak in English.., I find the book difficult.., I expect it is a difficult relationship but they feel deeply for each other.
Well Annie, a good try, and you will see that English comes back to you quicker than you think. Try and write something every day and if you work you will see how I am right.
Hi girls and boys!!!! It is Jose
Sorry for not answer to you (Marta) quicqler but i,ve been so busy because my twin sister moves again ( it is the nineth time!!!! )and i gave her a hand .Our relationship is so special and we never developed between us the dominant or dominate aptitud. Maybe ,me i was a litlle more responsible or serious, she ( her name is Ana ) rush into her thoughts.
She lives in Majadahonda and she studies english too ( in the eoi Majadahonada) and her level is higher than me.
By the other hand, our oldest sister she had never selfish of us ( we are so close ) on the contrary, when i was child i woud have liked to be like her ( she was so wonderfull)
see you
At the end you have decided to writte!!! Congratulations Annie!!!
Please could you get in touch with your friend about the english book?
have a good week end
kisses
Marta it´s true , i have all my parents love.I am the little in my family,they always protect me. When i was younger this make me angry , but i like it now. I think that when you grow up , you appreciate more thinks like that.
And , the best thing...i am universal heir :)
Class,do you know if i can go out of the class before the end? its very important to me know that. I should go to the train station, before i should go to my home to take my things, and tomorrow there will be strike in the underground.
Lara
Jose, sorry for not answering.., dominated attitude.., she rushES.. higher than mine.., on the other hand.., has never been jealous of us..,
It is wonderful that you have that relationship and that you move on equal terms with your twin. It is also strange, as it is one of the traits of twins that there is a dominant one who is the leader. However everything is possible.
Vampi, this MADE me angry.., more things like..., heiress..,
Exactly, you also have to take upon yourself your duties to your parents etc. but that happens to some children too as sometimes it is only one who look after the parents and not all
Vampi, TO know that..,I have to go to the train station to take my things.., A strike..,
Yes, you may leave but please do it quietly, Ok?
Thanks so much Marta for many things:
firts to helping me to improve my english, i think is so important for us, the blog is a very good way for that, we need speak english , but we need write english.When i saw my mistakes, its MADE me angry, in the future i will remenber them.
I thank you also let me leave the class.
So..i want to make a question to the class, do you think that Phillip is happy with his wife? In the book he think the will not miss his wife. If you love a person, you always miss the person when you or she/he is far.
Its my opinion.
P.D: the first time i wrote Hungry, not angry, new mistake xD
Hellow everybody,
I get angry like Vampi when I realize the mistakes I can make. We must remember that we always use the "s" for the third person.I didn´t know about the strike. I am a commuter and I hope not to have a lot problems.
I wouldn´t like to finish my Sunday without reading a little bit more.
Enjoy the rest of Sunday.
See you
Hello again
I finish to read the part of the novel that we had for this week. I myself did a wrong idea about Phillips Swallow. I thought him looked as Ralph Fiennes on "The Constant Gardener", clever, romantic (maybe because Martha told about him like a Becquer´s swallow), faithful to his wife, his children, his work... but after I read that he goes to the exchange scheme knowing that he will not miss them... Poor Phillip, I feel sorry for him
If I was movies director, I think I would do the film with Ralph Fiennes in the paper of Phillips. Maybe I change the opinion when I continue reading
i am agree with you Begoña,Fiennes can be Shallow, i love him as Voldemort or in his role in the amazing movie . Lara
The movie was The red dragon,my f... movile delete it. lara
Vampi, we need to speak.. to write.., it made me angry or it has made me angry..,for letting me leave the class.., he thinks he...,
You are welcome, and it is fantastic that you think this.I agree, the blog will help you and it is very good to try not to make the mistakes again, but the imp thing is to keep on writing.
I think Phillip is content with his wife, but now he feels young again and adventurous. We will see how this ends....
Jose fantastic and no mistakes! Well done. Yes I am going to read a bit too, I just returned from Santander...
Begoña, I finished reading.., had the wrong idea that Swallow looked like Fiennes... because of what Marta said about the swallow.. that he went on the... he would not miss them.., if I were a film director.. in the role of...,my opinion.
Well I don't think Fiennes is a bad choice at all.I don't feel sorry for Swallow I rather pity his wife who stays with the children... as usual, the boys having all the fun.
Lara, I agree with..
The verb is to agree.
So you agree too, good
Hello everybody I want to say that the book of lecture now is more interesting for me as it was before. I have still to do bigs efforts to understand it, but in my opinion is more interesting now.
The second thing I want to tell you is that I do not have any brother or sister and when I was child I want one of them. Is true that everything was for me, but I changed this for not be so lonely. Perhaps with the time can be better and now for me does not matter
Hi everyone, the book is dificult for me, but I enjoy with it, I need like half an hour for each page, but It is funny and very descriptive, with a lot of new words that I try to study.
see you this afternnon
Hello Vampi... answering to your question, I think that Philipp is happy... but he wants change his life for a moment.... because... dont't forget it, he is a man, and the men usually runs away your responsabilities..he wants to live as he were younger.....
JE,JE, boys of class, it's a joke, not to get ungry.
GEMA F.
upss, I'm sorry, I wanted to say that the men RUN away... and not runs.....
In the time that they are living everybody make themselves old people too soon. Philliw was like the stereotype of men than run away their responsabilities...
Vampi, I think that our classmates men must not to take the hint because today is different. You can marry, have children, even have a bored job... but the life can be fun and you can stay ever young if you want, with your family.
Be happy and everyone around you will also be happy. It is not the case of Philip, he has a bored life because he is a boring man
Miguel, the novel we are reading is more interesting for me now..., big efforts... it is more interesting.., I wanted one.., it is true.., but I would have changed all that for not having been so lonely.
Ahhhh what a pity, but if you had had friends or cousins to play with you, you wouldn't have felt so lonely! Maybe your Mummy was not very good at that. Be careful with the subject you don't put it and in English it always goes with the verb. In the last sentence you haven't either. Careful ok. Ah and I am glad you are starting to like the novel
Anónimo, I enjoy it..,
I am glad, yes it is demanding but you will improve a lot with it.
Gema, he wants to change his life..., from their responsibilities, they want to live as if they were young..
I agree, that is the problem with them and... have they got over it??
I enjoy too much with the classes. They are so interesting and funny, unless for me. We can learn english while we enjoy too. The book give us differents topics to talk about.
Hi class:now i am in my town and tomorrow i will go to make my medical test. Can you write me the homework? I want to do it here. Marta,did you like Santander? I was born there because my family are from Cantabria. Class,do you know the tv-show THE TUDORS? I love the show. Lara
Begoña, everybody makes himself.., that run away from their responsibilities.., class mates must not take.., have a boring job.., life can be fun and you can stay young forever.., it is not Philip's case, he has a boring life..,
I don't quite agree with what you say about Philip, he is boring, but aren't the English a bit boring too? Or some Spanish professors too?
Miguel, I enjoy the classes very much.., at least for me.., enjoy ourselves too..., the book giveS us different topics to talk about..,
I am very glad that you feel so. I agree with you about the topics and the novel, it is very good if you participate you will improve.
Lara, I will have my medical test or check up..,
You have to do the reading on page 5, I think it is.
Yes I like Santander very much, I come from there too, all my surnames are from Santander it is my home.
Hope your test is fine..
Thanks Marta.
And, whats about the novel?
My second surname is from a region near "la vega de pas".
Vampi, what about the novel...,
Well I am afraid somebody else will have to answer that as I can't remember! Sorry
And what do you think of Morris' trip to England?
There is an exhibition in the March Foudation with some English painters, has anybody been?
Can you provide information?
Hi everybody, how are things?
First at all Vampi, you have to read from page 19 (at the begining of the paragraph:"There was sex ...." to page 26 until the sentence: "You wil Professor, you will, says the girl" and lime Marta I hope your medical test is fine.
By the way of the English book I think definitly that is boring and difficult to read but I don´t care I accept it and I try to learn more and more words, above all adjectives... there are a lot!!!!
And I trow the next question: Who doesn´t like to stay young forever???? Personally, I would like to stop the time, blows so fast!!!!
bye
Hi Miguel, If you had had a sister or brother, you would have shared a lot things... like for instance: the toys, the room, the food.... Who Knows???? You are so lucky!!!!
Always We have to look in positive.... I don´t know if it is correct this expression...???? Marta help me!!!
see you
Hi, another time!!!!
For me, what the most like thing about the english classes it is "the blog" I spoke with my twin sister ( she studies English too, but in the Majadahonda´s EOI ) and I explained to her that there is a Blog where we can practise our English, ( writting, learning news words and pay attention about our mistakes we make and that Marta corrects, well she thinks that it is a fantastic idea and she wants to propose in her English class.
Kisses
Jóse, first OF all..., IT is boring and...,
I am sure that you will enjoy the novel all in all. You just have to get used to it and catch the sense of humour and see how funny it is when he describes the experiences of the two professors in the different enviroments.
As for your question... what can I say! It is true that we all want to remain young, feel well etc. (Because health is very important, if you are ill, what's the good of youth? We value looks more than health and the important thing is health)... but we have to learn to learn to grow old and we should value age, just the contrary to what happens now. In Japan, for example they revere the old, we don't. Maturity has advantages, what do the rest of you think?
Jóse, we always have to look at the bright side of things..
what I like most about the English classes is the blog.., about the mistakes that we make.., to propose it to her English class..,
I am very glad you like the blog and I agree with you, it is very good to practise and be in contact, to get to know each other, for news etc.
What about the exhibition, any news about it that you can provide?
Hi everybody!
Well, I think the exhibition called Treasure Island is a great oportunity to know the british art between the 15th and 20th centuries. Like all treasures it still needs to be discovered.
Since I have never been to that museum, I consider it is a good chance to go there.
What do you think?
Hi class:
my medical test was ok, i will have my surgery in november.
Jose , thank you for tell me the pages.
I am agree with you, i want be young forever, like vampires...but not like Meyer`s vampire, i love dark romantic vampires, like Dracula , Carmilla or Anne Rice vampires.
Today i was searching something about David Lodge and in youtube i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQF3zGOw86A
I hope you like it.
Lara
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Hi, my darling collegues
I,ve just read the last commentaries. Finnally I think Marta that I pictured the expression: first "At" all, I noticed it ( the correct is "of" ). Above your health,s comentary, unfortunatly I completly agree with you, because my oldest sister she is ill since two years and her illness is so hard, but I believe in the science and I try not to lost the faith, even though some times it is very complecated not happen....
by the way Vampi: to agree NOT use the verb to be, but don´t worry, I make a lot mistakes all days... and problably I put the foot in it often....at least more than you
bye
Hi Marta, I want to say that the next seventh of November I have to leave the class a little bit earlier as usual because I´m taking a flight ( Can I use in this case the present continous, because I am sure that I will travel??? ( I,m travelling to Rabat ) and I will take advantage for spending these days with my husband ( he has lived in Rabat for five years ago...) and I will be back ( come back ) the November´s twelve.
In such a way, I will tell you later.
Have a good night
Have a good week end everybody!!!!
see you
Hi another time!!!
By the way, I feel ( or to be??? ) a little overloaded because I have to read a french book too ( I am studing it in Opañel´s EOI )
My God, what a mess!!!!
I, m going to mix all.....
Kisses
Hi everybody,
I have to say that I feel like an stranger because at a difference of the rest of my mates of class, I am enjoying like a kid with the reading of the book.
Since the first day that I started to read the novel and in spite of the initial difficulties with the meaning of the half of the words, I was felt seduced by the plot since the first moment and much more when I could catch the humor of the reading, that it has achieved to awake an unexpected interest to find out what it is going to happen in the next pages.
Only I want to say you, that I absolutely agree with Marta, when you achieve to catch the humor, you are not going to stop to read.
Good night
Sira, I am very glad you think so, I am sure you will enjoy it.
Vampi, do you need surgery? I hope it is nothing serious.
...for telling me.., I agree.., searching for..,
Well inmortality is a dangerous thing, I don't want to live forever, no way. I want to live with the people I know in my time not in a different time and with nobody that I know. Find out what the Greeks say about it, it is interesting. Inmortality is for the gods, not for us poor humans. Do you agree?
Carmen, thank you very much for the information, it is a great help. I am going to try to go this week-end.
Jóse, my elder sister has been ill for the past 2 years.., I believe in science and I try not to lose faith.., to agree doesn't take the verb to be..,(well done for helping others)..,
I am very sorry about your sister, but she will recover, medicine in Spain is fantstic and nowadays we do recover from many illnesses.
Jóse, he has lived in Rabat for 5 years, so he is living there now. Or he lived in R for 5 years, so now he is not living there. I am not sure which you mean.
..I will be back on Nov the 12th..,
It is not a problem, leave whenever and have a great time in Marocco, I am sure you will be able to do a lot of shopping.
Have a nice week-end too and remember the exhibition!
Jóse, a piece of advice, concentrate on your English! I suppose the French teacher will say the same, but English is more important than French, I am sorry to say but it is true!!!
Andrés, contrary to my mates I am enjoyin the novel tremendously.., I felt/was seduced/gripped by the plot from the start.., and more so when..., which has succeded in awakening an unexpected interest in finding out what is going.., I just want to say to you that when you manage to catch the sense of humour you are not going to be able to stop reading..,
Andrés, I am so glad you say so, and you can't imagine what a help you are to me since you know the text so well! I hope the others find the novel a pleasure, in the end, as you and I
Andres, Marta, I enjoy the novel so much too. Probably I have not expressed my opinion in the essay clearly.
I like it a lot because I think the best for reading this novel (or any other book) is to comment about it with someone. In this way you can understand better the plot (the social situacion, the relationships between the characters and their enviroment...)
In any case, it is hard to me but less than the begining. This week I have read it in one sitting, understanding the full context, but later I had to look up more than 200 words at the dictionary... It is crazy!!, but the book is funny and it doesnt matter to me.
Jose, I wish you a good trip. I recommend you try the desserts Arabs, I love them. I have deviated nasal septum, that is the reason of my surgery.
Well, i agree with you Marta, immortality is dangerous but very atractive, if you have your soulmate with you, it can be more easy.
I read more the novel,i think that the american professor it is more extroverted. I consider his conversation with the girl who had a relationship with a priest very funny.
Lara
Hellow people!
I would like to say ( about my husband..) He has been living for five years ago in Rabat or He has lived in Rabat for the past five years?? Which is the correct setence? I mean ( he lives overseas )
Marta, thanks a lot about your advise ( tip??) I,ve never hesitated of the importance of this language and as well I like so much and I believe that it is easier than other but unfortunatly the pronuntiation it is completly different from writting... What a pity! and on the one hand it is my big "monster" , I swear you that I do a big effort for figuring out when you speak ( even though I honeslty think you speak clear and slowly, thank God!!!)but the idea of studing French it has been because from time to time I spend periods of time in Rabat and I don´t want to get behind abobe all when we go out ( because husband´s enviroment is very "french" )
OK Now I,m going to listen something in english
bye and kisses
I have visited the Exposition Treasure Island yesterday. I enjoyed it . It is a great exposition with the best british painters from s.XVI until s.XX. You can start seeing some royal portraits and finish with pop art paintings.
I remembered Phillip Swallow at the exposition seeing Hockney´s painting. Hockney had spent much of his time in the USA (when he met Andy Warhol), and the Californian swimming pool has been one of his favourite themes. These paintings are warm, sunny, cloudless day... like the atmosphere that Phillip found in Euphoric University
I love art. I recommend you visit Gauguin exposition in the Thyssen Museum. He is not a British painter but his bright colours exotic paintings are amazing.
Hellow everybody,
Begoña I will take into account your advice ( I hope to have a little bit time and visiting to Thyssen´s Musuem, by the way, Do yo Know how will last Gauguin,s exposition there?
I,ve just read the essay about "Changing Places" this time it has been funnier than previously. I daresay that we are fonding of Zapp´s character everybody more than Swallow´s character.....
Have a good Sunday´s afternoon
Hi Marta, it is Jose
I read my last commentary and I would like say to you: I don´t get behind or by the contray I can tell you I don´t want to get behind??? I,ve the bad custom ( habit ) of transleting how it says in Spanish.
Bye
see you tomorrow
Hello everybody,
I would like to ask you the meaning of: "like a slow-burn gag in a movie-comedy "(first paragraph on page 22). I feel it is one author's joke, but I don´t catch the meaning.
Thank you very much!
Begoña, it is hard for me but less than at the beginning.., look up in the dictionary..,
I am very glad it is getting better, the more words you learn the less you will have to look up in the future! It is very good to understand it at the first reading.
You are beginning to improve
Vampi, the Arab(adj)desserts.., as I read more the novel, I think that the Am professor is..,
First I am glad it is not anything serious. Then about inmortality: the person you like now might not be a favourite in the future and then inmortality will indeed be horrible! I honestly think that something forever is too much. Some people are lucky to find their perfect partener but it is perfect because he or she is going to be so only for some years. My father said to me this when I was a little girl: the best about things is that they are not eternal. Think about that...
I agree about the conversation with Mary Makepeace, what about that name? It is hilarious
Jóse, he has been living in Rabat for the past 5 years.. easier than others..., the way you pronounce it is different to the way you write it.., the idea of studying French is because.., my husband's circle..,
Well I think you do very well in learning as many languages as possible and well done for listening
Begoña, the exhibition..,
I have also been and have liked it too. It is very interesting to know what you tell about Hockney and the swimming-pool.
I also want to go to see Gaugin's exhibition.
Anybody else been?
Jóse, a little bit of time and visit also the Thyssen M.., how long Gaugin's exhibition will last?
..we are fonder of Zapp than of Morris..., a good Sunday afternoon..,
..translating directly from Spanish
I can tell you I don't want to get behind.. that is fine.
Don't translate from Spanish, you have to follow the English structure pattern S+V+O+A, ok?
Sira, I feel it is one of the author's jokes
We have to see it in context and I don't have the same edition as you, but don't worry that is not important because it is slang it means, as I understand, a joke that is not very good.
Hello everybody!!
I have been reading for ages!!! I had some internet problems in my computer so I haven't been able to connect it and there are a lot of messages.
Sira,the thing you ask... it happend to me a lot of times... I undestands the words of a sentence but I am sure that the general meaning isn't what I am thinking...
But at least now I can read and understand the meaning of the reading, althought I don't understand all the words (of course not, because I think I look up more or less 20 words per page in diccionary).
Enjoy everybody!!!!
Gema
ohhh. it is I undestand... without "s"... sorry (GEMA again)
Gema, although..,
This is exactly the idea, what you all have to do. You don't have to understand everything you have to understand the general idea. It is very important to look up the words and learn them.
It is nice to have you back.
Hi everybody!!!
This weekend I have been reading a lot because it has been very cold outside.. and I have enjoyed the novel more than before, because I have found it easier....
See you later.
GEMA F.
Gema, I am so glad to hear it! I told you it would become easier, but you have to keep working with it
Hi,
I am writting from the cafeteria of Fundacion Juan March. I have been visitting the exibition of British Art:Treasure Island. I will talk about the exibition later. The coffe shop is a very nice place to have a coffe with really cheap prices. Also you can read the neswpaper or even connect to internet with a Personal computer that is free to use for the visitor. Now I amto write this comment.
By, and see you on tuesday.
Sorry to everybody for my unfortunatily commentarious about the book, but anyway, I think the situations of the book are very funny.
I think Philip is the shy one, the good guy.
Morris is the opposite is selfconfident, he owns the truth always.
What your opinion about that?
I want to say also that I am studing arts,I say that for the exibition, if someone want to come with me, write me. Thanks you.
See you on wednesday.
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Hi Marta, it is very difficult for me to write 150 words about my first impression of Changing Places by David Lodge, when I have only read 19 pages. I think it is very soon to talk about it when we have not read any of it yet.
Vicente, thank you for telling us. I've never been to the coffee shop but I am glad to know there is one and with those facilities.
Did you like the exhibition?
Miguel, he is selfconfident.., he is always right..., what is your opinion?... if anyone wants to come with me write to me..,
Thank you for your offer and darlings you should go with him, that'll be very good.
Yes I think you are right about our friends the professors. I fear they both have to learn to improve and this experience is going to be the means...?
Rosario, why is it so difficult? I can write much more than 150 words just reading the first page. It is an impression, what you think of the story, not about the story or the plot.
Is the vocabulary difficult, what about the style, what view do we have of the English and the American people? There are thousands of things you can comment. But I have already marked them, you can't write it now, sorry
Hi everybody again,
Vicente, I feel sane envy of you because I haven't got the opportunity to visit the exhibition yet. I'm trying to make plans to visit it on saturday morning but my free time is limited and with my three children appears to be difficult at first sight.
Don't you think that the reading of this week it has been very funny? I found it specially funny the last part, when Zapp was speaking with the bespectacled blonde in the next seat.
I'm sorry I have to abandon the conversation, but thursdays are hard days of work to me and I have to go to bed to try to rest some hours.
Always it is a pleasure write and speak with you throught the blog.
Good night and good dreams
I'm sorry , I wanted to say Tuesdays.
Sweet dreams
Hi. Good evening To everybody.
It is my first time here. It is a good idea but i can not speak Lot about changing places because i Dont like so much.
I want To speak about The film The imposible. I liked it very much And I have seen shirley Valentine in The theatre This lást weekend. It Was increíble. It Was fantástic. Verónica Forque makes a great work.
See you soon.
Jesús Manuel Ruiz
Hi. Good evening To everybody.
It is my first time here. It is a good idea but i can not speak Lot about changing places because i Dont like so much.
I want To speak about The film The imposible. I liked it very much And I have seen shirley Valentine in The theatre This lást weekend. It Was increíble. It Was fantástic. Verónica Forque makes a great work.
See you soon.
Jesús Manuel Ruiz
Hi Again.
A friénd has seen The March exhibición And he told me that it is very nice.
Good night.
Andrés, my 3 children appear.., this week's reading has been very funny..,
Careful you tend to use the subject twice.
..hard days of work for me..,
Yes I agree with youuuu they are very funny and extreme, why? We have to talk about that in the class
Jesus Manuel, a lot.., I don't like IT ..., Forqué does a great work..,
Why don't you like the novel? You could talk about that.
Well it is a surprise that Forqué is not acting as herself in the role of Verónica Forqué. But I am glad to hear it. As to the film what does everybody think? I have to say that I don't often go, but the theatre I love. What is the title of the play?
Anónimo, thank you for telling us. I agree it is a very nice exhibition.
Hi Jesus Manuel Ruiz,
I think you are mixing up the actress because Veronica Forqué doesn´t star in the film "The Impossible". The actress is called Naomi Watts. I also saw that film and I liked it very much! I heard some people fainted because of some scenes, but that wasn't my case. Before starting the film I did already know how the ending will be like, so it wasn´t so dramatic.
Sorry, Jesus,
you were talking about the play
Hi Sara.
Lást night i spoke about 2 things.
A play And A film.
The teatre Was shirley Valentine sito Veronica Forque And The film The imposible Wily Naomi Watts who does a good interpretation but shé is not The best. It is my opinión.
I recomend 5 hours With Mario in arlequín teatre. It is fabulous. The actress is Natalia Millán. Shé is The best.
See you later.
Hi.
In The last message i wrote sito And i confuded. I wanted To write WITH. I write but i Dont see it again. Sorry.
I´m trying
Hi everybody,
Last week I tried to write in the blog but after I wrote many things I didn´t know how to send it.
Today, I called Lazara and she told me the way to do it.
Last Sunday I went to the "March Foundation" but it was closed in the evening. I´ll try it again this weekend but, in the morning.
Hello everyone,
I'm thinking of going to the exhibition this Friday afternoon. I prefer with a tour guide if possible, if not by my own. If someone is interested in that time we can meet there and change our impressions.
I love "Lo imposible",i cryed a lot in the cinema with my mother. I think Naomi and Ewan Mcgregor made an amazing roles, but i think that the the really star in the film it was the older brother.
Sira, what the end was..,
Well it seems we´ll have to go to watch the film.
Jesús Manuel, I saw the play years ago and I think it is a very good one, I would like to go to this one but.. I finish my lessons at 8, it is a bit difficult. I saw Natalia Millán in Wilt and I didn't like her so much, maybe I am too critical.
Hi everybody,
I will take advantage to read a little bit more the English book during this long week. I recognize that it is more easier than before, my "secret" it is NO to look up ( Can I use to look for ??) world by world only I catch the general meaning.
I agree in general with the comentaries that we made in class the last Monday about personality´s Swallow, on the one hand he is evolutionary, broad-minded and modern person and on the other hand he is all contrary, in fact he was shoched when he knew witch the plan´s blonde girl....
see you later
I will try to go out the next Friday to March Fundation but I am not sure yet, if I can do it, it would be in the morning....
bye
Jesús Manuel, I made a mistake.., you have to use the dictionary, the word you use doesn't exist.
I wrote it but I can't see it now?
Is that what you mean.
Maruja, I'll try to go again..
What a pity you didn't know it was close. But try again, it is really nice.
Sira, on my own..,
A very good idea.
Vampi, did an amazing role.., the real star is..,
Well it seems the film is a must.
Jòse, it is easier.., secret is not to look up words, not worlds, as I read.., last Monday, without an article,.., Swallow's personality.., and a modern person.., all the contrary.., the blonde girl's plan. The possessor goes first!
You mean Zapp, don't confuse our darling boys, please!
You are right about Morris, he is not what he seems, is he?
hi everybody!
last monday i miss the clase because i was on holidys. i've spent 4 days in coruña visiting some friends and relatives.
it was a fantastic weahter, dry and sunny, not as madrid...;-)
what's new abot Zapp & Swallow?
what do we need to read for next monday?
thks and see you at 2 pm.
Poor Zapp! He thinks about himself that is the best one and suddenly everything turns. His wife wants a divorce and as a solution she proposes him to leave home. The poor Zapp is forced to go to Europe and especially to Rummidge. I think he never thought this could happen him. He is successful in his profession, but he is a loser in his life. At least for the moment ...
Why did you tell me, Elvira??? I couldn`t read it yet... (I was only jocking, ;)
Have a nice week!
I'm sorry Sira. I have not realized that it is too early and many of you have not read yet.
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